Disputed by Calvinsts Refuted by the Truth

Posted on August 21, 2011

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Calvinists falsely use the scripture from Isaiah to support their doctrine. Calvinists use verse 6, “All of us have become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags.” However, Calvinists do not mention the scripture just two verses up, verse 4, how Isaiah tells us about God who acts on behalf of those who wait for him. Then, verse 5 tells us how God will come to the help of those who gladly do right, who remember His ways. Isaiah says, “But when we continued to sin against them…” This tells us that people WANT to do right, but cannot stop sinning against God’s ways. That is why we need a Savior. It does NOT mean what Calvinists say, that we CANNOT believe in God on our own.

Isaiah 64

1 Oh, that you would rend the heavens and come down,

that the mountains would tremble before you!

2 As when fire sets twigs ablaze

and causes water to boil,

come down to make your name known to your enemies

and cause the nations to quake before you!

3 For when you did awesome things that we did not expect,

you came down, and the mountains trembled before you.

4 Since ancient times no one has heard,

no ear has perceived,

no eye has seen any God besides you,

who acts on behalf of those who wait for him.

5 You come to the help of those who gladly do right,

who remember your ways.

But when we continued to sin against them,

you were angry.

How then can we be saved?

6 All of us have become like one who is unclean,

and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags;

we all shrivel up like a leaf,

and like the wind our sins sweep us away.

7 No one calls on your name

or strives to lay hold of you;

for you have hidden your face from us

and have given us over to our sins.

8 Yet you, LORD, are our Father.

We are the clay, you are the potter;

we are all the work of your hand.

9 Do not be angry beyond measure, LORD;

do not remember our sins forever.

Oh, look on us, we pray,

for we are all your people.

See what Isaiah say, “BUT WHEN WE CONTINUED TO SIN …… YOU WERE ANGRY. HOW THEN CAN WE BE SAVED?”

All of us have become like one who is unclean. If they were born totally depraved, THEN HOW can they BECOME as one who is unclean? Furthermore, this passage is about how even though the Jews were the chosen ones of God, they were just like anyone else, unclean! How do Calvinists explain that the chosen Jews were not believers in Jesus? Calvinists teach that God gives His Spirit to His chosen. That is incorrect beliefs, for God hardened His chosen people who did not believe in Jesus!

No One Is Righteous

Romans 3:9 What shall we conclude then? Do we have any advantage? Not at all! For we have already made the charge that Jews and Gentiles alike are all under the power of sin. 10 As it is written:

“There is no one righteous, not even one;

11 there is no one who understands;

there is no one who seeks God.

12 All have turned away,

they have together become worthless;

there is no one who does good,

not even one.”

13 “Their throats are open graves;

their tongues practice deceit.”

“The poison of vipers is on their lips.”

14 “Their mouths are full of cursing and bitterness.”

15 “Their feet are swift to shed blood;

16 ruin and misery mark their ways,

17 and the way of peace they do not know.”

18 “There is no fear of God before their eyes.”

19 Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be silenced and the whole world held accountable to God. 20 Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God’s sight by the works of the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin.

Paul is quoting Psalm14:1-3; 53:1-3; and Ecclesiastes 7:20. Ecclesiastes SAYS there is not a RIGHTEOUS man who does what is right and NEVER SINS. Ecclesiastes tells us that there ARE RIGHTEOUS men but none who NEVER sin. Paul is explaining that the Jews were sinners just like the Gentiles. Nowhere in these passages or scriptures anywhere does it say none can believe on their own. In this same Ecclesiastes 7, Solomon tells us about wise men, righteous men, and about a man who pleases God. Solomon also tells us that he found one upright man among a thousand. The Bible tells us that there are people who want to do right.

Now read on to 21-26. This part like others Calvinists do not seem to recall when trying to get others to follow their doctrine.

Righteousness Through Faith

Paul is quoting Psalm14:1-3; 53:1-3; and Ecclesiastes 7:20. Ecclesiastes SAYS there is not a RIGHTEOUS man who does what is right and NEVER SINS. Ecclesiastes tells us that there ARE RIGHTEOUS men but none who NEVER sin. Paul is explaining that the Jews were sinners just like the Gentiles. Nowhere in these passages or scriptures anywhere does it say none can believe on their own. In this same Ecclesiastes 7, Solomon tells us about wise men, righteous men, and about a man who pleases God. Solomon also tells us that he found one upright man among a thousand. The Bible tells us that there are people who want to do right.

Now read on to 21-26. This part like others Calvinists do not seem to recall when trying to get others to follow their doctrine.

Romans 3:21 But now a righteousness from God, apart from law, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. 22 This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. 25 God presented him as a sacrifice of atonement, through faith in his blood. He did this to demonstrate his justice, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished— 26 he did it to demonstrate his justice at the present time, so as to be just and the one who justifies those who have faith in Jesus.

In Romans 3:21, we see that those who want to obey God–now is made known a way–faith in Jesus Christ. The way has been MADE KNOWN. The way is not some secret that a select few get to know about, in some mysterious way. The way has been MADE KNOWN. We have the choice to believe in God or reject Him.

The scriptures say that this righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ TO ALL WHO BELIEVE. This does NOT even imply that God MAKES humans BELIEVE. THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE, FOR ALL HAVE SINNED AND FALL SHORT OF THE GLORY OF GOD…

This does NOT mean all sin the same sins and the same amount, and that no one does anything good ever, it means that there is no one who never sins, it means all HAVE sinned and fall SHORT of the glory of God, even the chosen Jews. Furthermore, the worst is rejecting Jesus. Just as not everyone sins exactly the same sins, not everyone sins the exact sin of rejecting Jesus. If a person is predestined to be enabled to believe, how is it one can go through most of their life not being a Christian, then believe in Jesus later? Why did not God enable them to believe the first time they heard the message? If someone does not believe in Jesus when learned of him the first time, how is it this same person can believe in him later? The answer is obvious to those who believe that we have a choice; it is because we do have a choice.

Romans 8:29 establishes that God foreknew people. Obviously, God foreknowing people means He knows who and what kind of people they are! God knowing a person also means he knows if that person would believe in him through His Son, and it does NOT imply that we cannot believe on our own free will! NOWHERE in the scriptures does it say we cannot believe on our own after learning of Jesus! If it is not in the Bible, then it is not the word of God! If it is not in the Bible, then it is man’s doctrine and teaching! For those God FOREKNEW he also predestined, predestined to do what? Predestined TO BE CONFORMED TO THE LIKENESS OF HIS SON. Again, NOWHERE does this imply that humans cannot believe in God after learning of Jesus! How is it that Calvinists get that God foreknows people to mean we cannot choose to believe? It does not mean that! How does predestining those foreknown mean we cannot choose God after learning of Him? It does not mean that! Calvinism teaches things that are not in the Bible. Calvinism teaches things that are the assumptions of men.

The Bible tells us that the Jews are those who God foreknew. See Romans 11:2.

Calvinists confuse all the scriptures that are about the Jews being hardened for the grafting in of the Gentiles.

God did not reject his people, whom he foreknew. Don’t you know what Scripture says in the passage about Elijah—how he appealed to God against Israel:

Paul in Romans is telling all that the Jews are the people God foreknew and he ALSO CALLED and predestined. See Romans 8:29,”29 For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers and sisters.

Paul is letting all know that even though Jews were hardened-they were not hardened forever-that God ALSO predestined them.

Do not miss what God is telling us in Ephesians 1, nor add or subtract what God says. Ephesians 1:4-11, For he chose us in him before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in his sight. In love 5 he predestined us for adoption to sonship through Jesus Christ, in accordance with his pleasure and will— 6 to the praise of his glorious grace, which he has freely given us in the One he loves. 7 In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, in accordance with the riches of God’s grace 8 that he lavished on us. With all wisdom and understanding, 9 he made known to us the mystery of his will according to his good pleasure, which he purposed in Christ, 10 to be put into effect when the times reach their fulfillment—to bring unity to all things in heaven and on earth under Christ. 11 In him we were also chosen, having been predestined according to the plan of him who works out everything in conformity with the purpose of his will,

From verse 4, For he chose us in him before the creation of the world TO BE HOLY AND BLAMELESS IN HIS SIGHT.

THE PLAN IS PREDESTINED TO MAKE US HOLY AND BLAMELESS.

In verse 11, in Jesus, we were chosen. We have been predestined according to the plan. Nowhere does this scripture say that God would enable all who would believe, to believe. What this scripture says is that God predestined us according to the plan, and the plan is that we have access to grace though faith!

The only thing that is clear is that the plan is predestined, and that God foreknew who would believe.

NOW GO JUST TWO SCRIPTURES FURTHER AND READ EPHESIANS VERSE 13 CAREFULLY:

13 And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit,

And you ALSO were included in Christ WHEN YOU HEARD THE MESSAGE OF TRUTH… WHEN YOU BELIEVED… THEN, you were MARKED IN HIM WITH A SEAL, THE PROMISED HOLY SPIRIT.

Stop believing the twisted strange doctrine of John Calvin; believe on the Word of God! The scriptures do not say what Calvinists teach, and that is that God enables us to believe first by giving us the Holy Spirit. Calvinists say we are born again first and then enabled to believe; however, the scriptures say we believe first, and then given the Holy Spirit, then we are born again.

The plan was predestined–for those who would believe!

I have some questions for Calvinists. I sincerely hope that someone here can answer my questions.

Calvinists believe that no one can accept God on their own. They believe that God causes people to believe by the Holy Spirit.

Question one: Calvinists believe that no one can accept God on their own. Which scripture or scriptures say that? Explain why it does not say that anywhere in the Bible.

Read Galatians 3:2. In Galatians 3:2 we read that Paul asks the Galatians if they received the Spirit by observing the law, or by believing what you heard?

Question 2: Why did Paul not say something like ‘I would like to learn just one thing from you: Did you receive the Spirit by observing the law, or by God giving you His Spirit so that you can believe?’

Romans 10:17 Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word of Christ.

Question 3: In Romans 10:17, why does Paul not say something different like, ‘Consequently, faith comes from the Holy Spirit enabling you to believe, and therefore allowing you to accept the message’?

1 Thessalonians 2:13 And we also thank God continually because, when you received the word of God, which you heard from us, you accepted it not as the word of men, but as it actually is, the word of God, which is at work in you who believe.

Question 4: Why did Paul not say ‘…which is at work in you who were enabled to believe’? I mean, Paul is taking time to explain carefully to the Thessalonians, so why not explain more adequately.

Hebrews 4:2 For we also have had the gospel preached to us, just as they did; but the message they heard was of no value to them, because those who heard did not combine it with faith.

Question five: Why in Hebrews 4:2 did Paul not say something like, ‘For we also have had the gospel preached to us, just as they did; but the message they heard was of no value to them, because those who heard were not enabled to have faith to believe it’?

In Romans 5:1-2 we are told “…we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have gained access by faith into this grace in which we now stand.

We have gained access by faith…there is no mention of the access in which Calvinism teaches, and that is having access by the Holy Spirit.

Calvinism as a whole adds to Romans 5:1-2. Romans 5:1-2 is complete and accurate on how we get access to grace. Paul is revealing something extremely important here; he is explaining how we get access. Paul is explaining how we get access, and he does not say we get access the way Calvinists say, and that is by the Holy Spirit enabling us to have faith.

If you know Calvinism, then you know that Calvinists believe we can only have access to grace by faith that God has enabled to believers by the Holy Spirit.

Again, this scripture has Paul explaining how believers get access. In addition, nowhere does it say through enabling of the Holy Spirit.

Paul’s explanation is accurate and complete. To say otherwise would be to distrust what Paul is saying.

1 Peter 1:2

who have been chosen ACCORDING TO the FOREKNOWLEDGE of God the Father, through the sanctifying work of the Spirit, to be obedient to Jesus Christ and sprinkled with his blood:

Who have been chosen according to the FOREKNOWLEDGE of God THROUGH THE SANCTIFYING WORK of the Spirit. Nowhere does this scripture say that all those who will believe, that God would enable to believe. God chose us through the sanctifying work of the Holy Spirit. God chooses the sanctified. God foreknew those the Holy Spirit would sanctify.

Acts 2:23

This man was handed over to you by God’s deliberate plan and foreknowledge; and you, with the help of wicked men, put him to death by nailing him to the cross.

Again, the PLAN WAS PREDESTINED. Jesus was handed over to those men by God’s deliberate plan and FOREKNOWLEDGE.

The topic is those who God elected! God elected who He elects because we have faith in His Son–God works all things according to his will–which those who believe in His Son, God will save them, and those who do not, God will not save.

When we were dead in our transgressions and sins and the uncircumcision of our sinful nature, God made us alive with Christ. He forgave all our sins. See Colossians 2; 13; Ephesians 2:1; and 2:5. This is about Paul explaining to us that God saved us before we got rid of all our sins! That God saves us while we still have sins, and that God will be with us while we work out our salvation!

We did not come to know Christ while we were indulging in impurity…we came to know Christ when we HEARD of him and were TAUGHT, with regard to our former way of life, to put off our old self, which is being corrupted by its deceitful desires, to be made new in the attitude of our minds, and to put on the new self, created to be like in true righteousness and holiness. See Ephesians 4:18-24.

Nowhere in the scriptures does it say what you Calvinists say that God’s will was to make people who could not believe on their own. Nor do the scriptures show that God did not want people to believe. On the contrary, the Bible tells us that God desires that people turn from wickedness so He would save them. In addition, read what Jesus says to Jerusalem:

“O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing!

Jesus says they were not willing! Not because God did not design them to ever believe. Jesus blames them, but Calvinists blame God for not enabling them. Do you think Jesus needed John Calvin to explain the need for enabling first? Why would Jesus even plead with them if they were rejecting him because God did not enable them to receive him? Jesus is pleading with them because they DO have a choice, yet they refuse to come to Jesus. That is their sin, Jesus called, and they refused.

That no one seeks God. Paul quoting from Psalms 14:1-3.

1 The fool[a] says in his heart,

“There is no God.”

They are corrupt, their deeds are vile;

there is no one who does good.

The LORD looks down from heaven

on the sons of men

to see if there are any who understand,

any who seek God.

3 All have turned aside,

they have together become corrupt;

there is no one who does good,

not even one.

(End of scriptures)

“All have turned aside,” if they are all born totally depraved, how can they have turned aside?

Paul is quoting King David. Paul is explaining that the Jews were sinful too. What is King David saying where Paul quotes? Listen carefully; at that time in which David speaks, the people are in a bad condition inside Israel. When the day spoken of arrived, no one searched for God.
If no one ever searched for God, then how was it that the Israelites called out to God to help them when they thought God had forgotten them while they were slaves in Egypt?

Exodus 3:9 And now the cry of the Israelites has reached me, and I have seen the way the Egyptians are oppressing them.

Deuteronomy 26:7
Then we cried out to the LORD, the God of our ancestors, and the LORD heard our voice and saw our misery, toil and oppression.

If no one ever searched for God, then why do the scriptures say people did?

In the New Testament, when Jesus arrived, people shouted: “Son of David, have mercy on me”. They were looking for the Messiah. In the New Testament a blind man was searching for the Son of God, the prophet’s had said would come. I just showed you that people do search for God. Again, Paul was explaining that the Jews were sinners like the Gentiles, even thought the Jews were supposed to be God’s Holy people.

The Old Testament believers in God were God’s people. Not all Old Testament Jews were true believers. The people who believed in God, God gave them to Jesus. God’s people who believed in Him, they now had to go through Jesus in faith to continue with God, this faith in Jesus made them perfect. They are the people who God enabled to come to Jesus during Jesus’ ministry on earth. The Jews who did not believe in God, God hardened them so they were not able to come to Jesus. The people who are drawn to Jesus, they are drawn because they are all ready believers in God the Father. The people who believe in God, they recognize what Jesus says as God’s word, and in this, they are drawn. John 6:37 All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away. John 6:44, 45 “No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them, and I will raise them up at the last day. 45 It is written in the Prophets: ‘They will all be taught by God.’ Everyone who has heard the Father and learned from him comes to me.

The people were already God’s, now they would become Jesus’ people. Those who did not believe in God, they were hardened. God did not allow them to come to Jesus. Only a remnant, the lost sheep of Israel would come to Jesus (Matthew 10:6; 15:24). John 17:6 “I have revealed you to those whom you gave me out of the world. They were yours; you gave them to me and they have obeyed your word. See also, John 3:37, 39; 6:65; 10:26, 29; 15:21-24; 16:3; 17:2, 9, 24; Romans 11:4, 5, 7; Hebrews 12:23; 11:39-40. John 8:19 Then they asked him, “Where is your father?” “You do not know me or my Father,” Jesus replied. “If you knew me, you would know my Father also.”

Calvinists think “all men” in John 12:32 proves “all men” in the other scriptures means not “all men.” John 12:32 “But I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to myself.” However, at this time, Jesus came only for the lost sheep of Israel. The lost sheep of Israel were the ones who were not hardened for they believed in God. In the other scriptures where “all men” is used, this is precisely to “all men” in the world. These other scriptures that say “all men” are after God had included Gentiles.

Philippians 1:29 For it has been granted to you on behalf of Christ not only to believe in him, but also to suffer for him,

Calvinism falsely uses Philippians 1:29 to support Calvinism. Calvinists forget that unbelieving Jews were hardened. And it was GRANTED to the Gentiles to believe in Jesus. There is not special granting to those who do not even want God, as Calvinists say.

Acts 13:48 When the Gentiles heard this, they were glad and honored the word of the Lord; and all who were appointed for eternal life believed.

Calvinists falsely use Acts 13:48 to support Calvinism. There were Jews and Gentiles there together. God appointed Gentiles as a nation of people to be able to have eternal life; the Gentiles were once excluded. All those appointed to have eternal life—the Gentiles, all of them there believed! Calvinists misunderstand that scripture.

Calvinists falsely use 1 Corinthians 2:14, The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit.

That scripture does not imply that we cannot believe in God after learning of Him. Verse 12 say, What we have received is not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may understand what God has freely given us.  13 This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual realities with Spirit-taught words.  [c] Or Spirit, interpreting spiritual truths to those who are spiritual
We do not even have to understand the word of God when we first hear of it.  Lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways acknowledge him, and he will direct your paths (see Proverbs 3:5-6).  We do not even have to have understanding!  We believe, then when we receive the Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit teaches us.

If we are so totally depraved that we cannot even believe God, then why does Paul tell us that before Jesus saved him, he had the desire to do what is good, but he could not carry it out? How could Paul have had the desire to do good if he was born totally depraved? How could Paul have said he wanted to do good? See Romans 7:18, 19.

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